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[πΉπ½πΌπ°πΉπ³π΄πΉ]1. 'leader' would be 'drauhtins'. 'drauhts' is his fellowship. 2. On this wikipedia we distinguish different heads of a nation. The Gothic equivalent to 'leader' is semantically too less distinct. That's why we already used in several articles the words 'πΈπΉπΏπ³π°π π°πΉπ·ππΉπ·π°πΏπ±πΉπΈ' for head of government, like in Germany Angela Merkel, and 'πΈπΉπΏπ³π°π·π°πΏπ±πΉπΈ' for the president/head of the nation. Kevin Behrens (talk) 18:28, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- Oh ok, this wikipedia is a bit unclear to me because I can't find things like this at certain pages. But why do we need to use neologisms here? I prefer a pure form of Gothic. Bokareis (talk) 19:15, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- This Wikipedia is far away from perfect. And indeed a big problem is, that not all information is visible at once. But the words are already used in the dictionary. We had to use neologism here because Gothic has no words for president and premierminister. And also with 'drauhtins' being the German translation of FΓΌhrer I would like to avoid historical misunderstandings of this word as a term for the head of a country. Leader is just too unprecise to serve as a word here and to distinguish different positions that are at the head of the nation or government. Kevin Behrens (talk) 19:21, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, agree. I will use different terms at my news website, as I can't check all Wikipedia terms and I 'm not going to rely on a dictionary at Wikipedia with wrong words. (I don't say this in an angry way, just want to make it clear, as I want to use correct Gothic.) Bokareis (talk) 19:43, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- I can totally understand your dislike towards the dictionary here. But just see it as an inspiration. It inspires you to research further with that word since, of course, every entry there has to be counterchecked before being used. And if you do so it can serve quite well. Espacially when you forgot what neologism was used for this and for that. It is a good first lead, nothing more or less. Kevin Behrens (talk) 19:47, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, although I know decently how to form Gothic phrases, I don't know how to verify that words are correct. I will just do it safe and if I can't ask what a word means because I need to post something new (like a news article), I will just use a Gothic alternative, I can always change words later. Bokareis (talk) 21:20, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- I can totally understand your dislike towards the dictionary here. But just see it as an inspiration. It inspires you to research further with that word since, of course, every entry there has to be counterchecked before being used. And if you do so it can serve quite well. Espacially when you forgot what neologism was used for this and for that. It is a good first lead, nothing more or less. Kevin Behrens (talk) 19:47, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, agree. I will use different terms at my news website, as I can't check all Wikipedia terms and I 'm not going to rely on a dictionary at Wikipedia with wrong words. (I don't say this in an angry way, just want to make it clear, as I want to use correct Gothic.) Bokareis (talk) 19:43, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)
- This Wikipedia is far away from perfect. And indeed a big problem is, that not all information is visible at once. But the words are already used in the dictionary. We had to use neologism here because Gothic has no words for president and premierminister. And also with 'drauhtins' being the German translation of FΓΌhrer I would like to avoid historical misunderstandings of this word as a term for the head of a country. Leader is just too unprecise to serve as a word here and to distinguish different positions that are at the head of the nation or government. Kevin Behrens (talk) 19:21, 18 πππΏπΌπ° πΎπΉπΏπ»π΄πΉπ 2014 (UTC)