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𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰 𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃𐍅𐌰𐌷𐍃𐍄𐌿𐍃𐌱𐍂𐌿𐌺𐌾𐌰𐌽𐌳𐍃/𐌱𐍂𐌿𐌺𐌾𐌰𐌽𐌳𐌹𐍅𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌳
𐌽𐌿17:58, 19 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 17:58, 19 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024512 × 260 (645 KB)MoalliRecent Aruban census data showing less than 20% Spanish speakers is not neutral? This is literally fitting the map's legend
03:26, 16 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 03:26, 16 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024512 × 260 (893 KB)SalvablReverted to version as of 01:35, 27 December 2023 (UTC) There is no consensus to remove Aruba. If we were to do this because there are less than 20% Spanish speakers, Mauritania should also be removed from the map of the French language; otherwise there would be a lack of neutrality. The appropriate thing to do in these cases where the language is sufficiently relevant even if it does not reach 20% of speakers is to mark the country with a dot.
15:17, 11 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 15:17, 11 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2024512 × 260 (645 KB)MoalliRmv Aruba, most recent census data shows less than 20% Spanish speakers
01:35, 27 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 01:35, 27 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023512 × 260 (893 KB)Kwamikagamithere is no consensus to make an exception for the Philippines in the first place
16:45, 24 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 16:45, 24 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023512 × 260 (891 KB)SalvablReverted to version as of 21:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC) There is not sufficient consensus to gray the Philippines entirely.
02:57, 24 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 02:57, 24 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023512 × 260 (893 KB)Kwamikagamirv to status-quo ante: Spanish is no more important in the Philippines than French is in Vietnam. The number of speakers is miniscule.
21:29, 18 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 21:29, 18 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2023512 × 260 (891 KB)SalvablReverted to version as of 00:39, 9 October 2023 (UTC) That extremely tiny dot violates WP:ACCESSIBILITY. In addition, it was added unilaterally without prior consensus.
06:12, 11 𐌰𐌿𐌺𐍄𐍉𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 06:12, 11 𐌰𐌿𐌺𐍄𐍉𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂 20232,532 × 1,284 (841 KB)MoalliDon't unilaterally highlight PH as it has been agreed upon that shading the entire country is misleading and that the current dot is a placeholder until other possible color schemes (if any) are agreed upon. The situation is similar to Czech Rep on German maps regarding cultural presence vs Louisiana on French map (where it's official to some degree).
00:39, 9 𐌰𐌿𐌺𐍄𐍉𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 00:39, 9 𐌰𐌿𐌺𐍄𐍉𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂 2023512 × 260 (891 KB)SalvablReverted to version as of 13:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC) On world language maps where there is a cultural presence, the entire territory is usually highlighted (as for example Louisiana or New Hampshire on the French language-related maps). Nevertheless, I think there may be other options (such as the use of dots) that would help the map gain accuracy, but this requires discussion, and reaching a common consensus, which does not exist in this case. The solution is not just to turn gray the entir...
05:27, 18 𐌰𐌲𐌿𐍃𐍄𐌿𐍃 2023𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍄𐌹𐌻𐌰𐍆𐍂𐌹𐍃𐌰𐌷𐍄𐍃 𐌿𐍃𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰 𐌹𐌽 05:27, 18 𐌰𐌲𐌿𐍃𐍄𐌿𐍃 20232,532 × 1,284 (841 KB)MoalliOn world language maps where there is a cultural presence/influential minority, the standard has been to place a dot or square on the concerned country, usually on the largest city or capital. Highlighting it entirely when it's not used in administrative settings or as the secondary language is blatant misrepresentation and POV-esque. Please see discussion on proposals to accurately map PH, but do not highlight the whole country, as that is not accurate.
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