Wikipedia:𐌱𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌲𐍃 𐌱𐍂𐌿𐌽𐌽𐌰

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𐌷𐌰𐌹𐌻 𐌰𐌽𐌰 𐌸𐌰𐌼𐌼𐌰 𐌱𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌲 𐌱𐍂𐌿𐌽𐌽𐌹𐌽

𐍃𐍉 𐌱𐌰𐍂𐌿𐌲𐍃 𐌱𐍂𐌿𐌽𐌽𐌰 𐌹𐍃𐍄 𐍃𐍄𐌰𐌸𐍃 𐌴𐌹 𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃 𐌱𐌹 𐍅𐌹𐌺𐌹𐍀𐌴𐌳𐌾𐌰 𐌼𐌹𐌸𐍂𐍉𐌳𐌾𐌰𐌹𐌼𐌰.

𐌲𐌰𐍅𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌳𐌾𐌰

connectivity project

Hallo, my name is Anastasiya Lvova, I'm "duty" in Connectivity project. The essence of the "Connectivity" project is to study and enhance the coherence of Wikipedia, or, in other words, to improve hypertext navigation between articles. The project deals with deadends, isolated articles, non-categorized articles, transitivity of the category tree, etc.

We want to work with your language version, but we need configured MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage for it (with direct links to template namespace pages, for example, ru:MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage/de:MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage/fr:MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage). Is it possible to set it up for our usage?

thanks in advance, Lvova 18:52, 12 Warmmenoþs 2010 (UTC)

Betawiki: better support for your language in MediaWiki

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Thank you very much for your attention and I do hope to see some of you on Betawiki soon! Cheers! Siebrand@Betawiki 09:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

"𐌺𐌰𐌽𐌽 𐌸𐌿 𐌸𐌰𐍄𐌰" 𐌰𐌽𐌰 𐌷𐌰𐌿𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌰𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉

• 𐌿𐍃𐌻𐌰𐌿𐌱𐌾𐌰𐌽 𐌹𐌺? --Jacques Pirat 05:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

𐍃𐌹𐌴𐌱𐍉𐍄 𐌱𐍉𐍄-𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌾𐌰𐌽

Hey guys, we need more votes to have this bot approved... Thanks in advance. nl:User:Siebrand 09:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Jacques Pirat 20:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Ooswesthoesbes 15:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Alexander Gerashchenko 16:59, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. —Pathoschild 19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

𐌾𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌽𐌰𐍀𐌾𐌰 𐌲𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌽𐌴𐌹𐌸 𐍅𐌰𐌻𐌳𐌿𐍆𐌽𐌾𐌹𐍃𐌼𐌰𐌽𐌽𐌰 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌸𐌰𐌽

+6

• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Jacques Pirat 17:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 -- Yadönapya 09:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Manie 07:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 𐌷𐍂𐍉𐌸𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌷𐍄 21:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 -- Alexander Gerashchenko 03:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --𐍆𐌿𐌲𐌻𐍃 _(:> )=| 23:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

𐌾𐌰𐌺 𐍀𐌹𐍂𐌰𐍄 𐌲𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌽𐌴𐌹𐌸 𐍅𐌰𐌻𐌳𐌿𐍆𐌽𐌾𐌹𐍃𐌼𐌰𐌽𐌽𐌰 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌸𐌰𐌽

+6

• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Jacques Pirat 17:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 -- Yadönapya 09:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --Manie 07:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 𐌷𐍂𐍉𐌸𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌷𐍄 21:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 -- Alexander Gerashchenko 03:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
• 𐌱𐌹𐌽𐌰𐌷 --𐍆𐌿𐌲𐌻𐍃 _(:> )=| 23:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

34y

Please delete it. --Flrn 17:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Done ! -- Yadönapya 10:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

SpBot

Hello. I would like to get a bot-flag on this wiki.

• Operator: de:User:Euku
• Purpose: Interwiki links: It adds/modifies/deletes interwiki links.
• Software: pywikipediabot framework via SVN
• Already has bot flag on: >74 Wikipedias, for example: ar, bn, ca, cs, de, en, es, eu, da, fr, he, hu, it, pl, ro, ru, sq, tr. (Since 2006 on German Wikipedia, with >69.000 edits), look at details

Thank you! --Euku 08:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

SpaceBirdyBot

Hello, I would like to replace the wrong i here with the correct version ‎  to 𐌹̈
I did that already in the Afrikaan Wiktionary (there was not as much to replace as here, but searching for the wrong character in all entries by hand would have been insane).

• operator:: m:User:Spacebirdy
• purpose:: correct  to 𐌹̈ in all entries
• software:: pywikipediabot (modified replace.py, working expamples: [1], [2], [3]...)
• already botflag on: 115 Wiktionaries, mostly working as replacebot(correcting errors/templates/etc.)/interwikibot there; see also vvv's sul-tool

Best regards, --𐍆𐌿𐌲𐌻𐍃 _(:> )=| 18:24, 18 Asanmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

This bot is fine to run on this wiki. Jacques Pirat 20:20, 18 Asanmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

pro

1. --Manie 22:35, 18 Asanmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

comments

Ok, I have set it to run already, I throttled it to 60seconds between page savings, if You think it spams the recentchanges too much please let me know, I will turn it off then again, best regards, --𐍆𐌿𐌲𐌻𐍃 _(:> )=| 23:57, 18 Asanmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I think I am through.

Please delete [4], [5], [6], and [7], nothing links to them anymore. Best regards, --𐍆𐌿𐌲𐌻𐍃 _(:> )=| 00:31, 19 Asanmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

Accents

Do we use accents in the Latin alphabet pages or not? I see inconsistency here; the title of the editing page is "Máidjan af...", but on 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌰𐍂𐌰𐌶𐌳𐌰/Gutarazda there are no accents. Which do we go with? I personally think the accents make it easier to read, but it's not impossible without them.

Also, hyphenation: I prefer not to hyphenate, for example, "gameljan" ("ga-meljan"), but I wasn't sure if there was a definite policy on this; it can lead to some slightly ugly words sometimes (my latest update of Gutarazda includes the word "gaainaida" ("isolated"), which is pretty hideous, especially without accents..."gaáináida" is an improvement).

Just some thoughts. I know the English version has some standards of usage; it would probably be a good idea to have some here. Sectori 23:22, 21 Akranmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

Also, 𐍈 or 𐌸? The front page uses both: it might be more sensible to just choose one. Sectori 13:18, 25 Akranmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

𐌸 of course; 𐍈 is wrong. 𐌷𐍂𐍉𐌸𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌷𐍄 10:14, 2 Blomamenoþs 2009 (UTC)

Bot policy

Hello. To facilitate steward granting of bot access, I suggest implementing the standard bot policy on this wiki. In particular, this policy allows stewards to automatically flag known interlanguage linking bots (if this page says that is acceptable), which form the vast majority of such requests. The policy also enables global bots on this wiki (if this page says that is acceptable), which are trusted bots that will be given bot access on every wiki that allows global bots.

This policy makes bot access requesting much easier for local users, operators, and stewards. To implement it we only need to create a redirect to this page from Project:Bot policy, and add a line at the top noting that it is used here. Please read the text at m:Bot policy before commenting. If you object, please say so; I hope to implement in one week if there is no objection, since it is particularly written to streamline bot requests on wikis with little or no community interested in bot access requests. Malafaya 09:50, 9 Weinmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

Implemented. Malafaya 14:57, 22 Weinmenoþs 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to learn Gothic

Hallo there, gothicspeakers. I bought a Gothic bible in summer and I understand quite a bit of it. I spend most of my free time learning latin. If I had someone who learns gothic too, that would motivate me. Do you know any beginners who would join me? Thanks a load. - Capsicaciolum, friday, jannuary 16, 2009, 21:22 (CET)

- Sean (sjheiss@comcast.net) I'm learning Gothic, but I think it's too late, seeing as this was posted almost 5 months ago, but if you or anyone else learning Gothic happen to see this, and would like someone to practice with, contact me through my e-mail, and put Gothic somewhere in the subject so I know what it's for. ;)

-No, it is deffinitely not to late. I am glad finally someone answered. I just starded to learn more Gothic again some days ago and I am sending you an e-mail before you read this post. - Capsicaciolum 17:36, 20 Hawimenoþs 2009 (UTC)

Fonts and Logo

𐍆𐌰𐌲𐌹𐌽𐍉𐌸!

I have now finished the "flagship" of my fonts, the new version of Ulfilas. It is available for download at my site.

Further, I have created a new version of the Wikipedia logo using Ulfilas. I have made the suggestion to use it towards Jaques Pirat, but as he seems to be away for a while, I'd like to advise the rest of the community of this suggestion.

Best regards, 𐌷𐍂𐍉𐌸𐌱𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌷𐍄 19:54, 13 Blomamenoþs 2009 (UTC)

2010 Fundraising Is Almost Here

Hello Wikipedians, I am Theo and I am working for the Wikimedia Foundation during the 2010 Fundraiser. My job is to be the liaison between your community and the Foundation. This year's fundraiser is intended to be a collaborative and global effort; we recognize that banner messages which may perform well in the United States don't necessarily translate well, or appeal to international audiences.

I'm contacting you as I am currently looking for translators who are willing to contribute to this project by helping translate and localize messages into different languages and suggesting messages that would appeal to your readers on the Fundraising Meta Page. We've started the setup on meta for both banner submission, statistical analysis, and grouping volunteers together.
Use the talk pages on meta, talk to your local communities, talk to others, talk to us, and add your feedback to the proposed messages as well! I look forward to working with you during this year's fundraiser. If someone could translate this message I would really appreciate it so that everyone is able to understand our goals and contribute to this year's campaign.
Theo (WMF) 20:12, 20 𐍅𐌴𐌹𐌽𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2010 (UTC)

Survey on this wikipedia

Hails, I am from Germany, Bremen, and I am studying linguistics and I have a seminar on language ausbau. This is, when a language doesn't have enough words to express all the modern things and it gets then upgrated with new expressions to fulfill it. And I want to study how Wikipedia can help on that and this is why I am doing those surveys. I have two questions for you: 1. What do you think is the contribution of Wikipedia that your languages gets beter developped and gets new expressions for modern things, 2. How do you build new words, are there certain patterns or methods? I would be really thankful, if there came some meanings and answers together. Thank you very much, Sincerely Liufos goleineis, Zylbath 07:20, 14 𐌰𐌺𐍂𐌰𐌽𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2011 (UTC)

The prospects of a revival may be doubtful, since the Goths did not hold onto their ethnic self-consciousness and assimilated into the local populations (the last holdouts being in the Crimea). Perhaps one day modern admirers of Gothic fashion might become interested in the ancient language. Although the ancient Goths have nothing to do with the modern fashion-Goths except in name, there's no reason they couldn't adopt the old language. That may be unlikely, but no more unusual than people learning Klingon or Elvish. To answer your question, there probably aren't very many projects involved in creating new texts in Gothic, so this site may end up being influential if there ever is a revival. One thing in particular to look for here is that this site has standardized for its own uses the names of the days and months (see the entries for 𐌾𐌴𐍂 and 𐍅𐌹𐌺𐍉). We have only fragmentary original information of what these actually were. There are other interpretations (such as http://www.oe.eclipse.co.uk/nom/calendar.htm); so one sign would be to see if, after a revival takes place and usages become more or less standard, the month and day names given here prevail. In the unlikely event of a major resurgence, this will lead to a divergence into ancient Gothic and modern Gothic (perhaps the old could be called "gutisk" and the new "gutarazda"), and expect a lot of pedantic discussion about what is authentic versus made-up, and what new word is most faithful to the old language. I would imagine a similar process has happened for Modern Hebrew and Katharevouza.

As for how new words may be created, loan words are one possibility; the ancient Goths themselves did this sometimes, typically from Greek or Latin; a contemporary example you can see used here is "seido" for web page, after "site". Or new words can be built from cognates in other languages, such as "Banda-reikja" for United States, after the Icelandic "Bandaríkin". And I feel that any deduced word, such as "gutarazda", is fair game (though I wouldn't personally include the * in front of it as is done in academic usage). Or, one could break down the word into its roots and translate them directly, for instance, "in-de-pend-ence" means "not hang from condition" and in German becomes Un-ab-hängig-keit. A new Gothic example would be "káuli-blóma" for "cauliflower" (Blumenkohl). Or the meaning could be translated into a new compound, such as "witirahnjands" for computer (I believe this would be something like "knowledge reckoner") or -- as I have done -- "fair-weitl-waurstwa" for "actor". Also, look for the entries on Wikipedia:Razdagaruni and Wikipedia:𐌽𐌹𐌿𐌾𐌰_𐍅𐌰𐌵𐍂𐌳𐌰 -- you may find these informative. Allsbairhts 10:32, 18 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

I really thank you for that interesting introduction. Unfortunately the paper I hold in this is already over, but still, this was very interesting. But for further things on Wikipedia's influence this could be very useful. It seems that you are quite often here in the last time, which is very good. And BTW, the pages in wikipedia you posted were created by me. ;) Liubos goleineis, Zylbath 10:52, 18 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

Well, silly me, I didn't see that. Anyway, that was some good work! Allsbairhts 10:20, 21 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

No need to excuse ;) I think that was overdue. Liubos goleineis, Zylbath 11:54, 21 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

HiW-Bot

• Operator  : Hedwig in Washington
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• Already has a bot flag (Y/N)  : Yes: 31 Wikis so far, others pending. see here
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I humbly request bot status on this wiki in order to update Interwiki, and improve Internationalization by removing chaos in Babel so it can be used properly and easy by everyone.

Thank you for consideration! --Hedwig in Washington 20:44, 15 𐌰𐌺𐍂𐌰𐌽𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2011 (UTC)

Admin candidature

Hello, please vote for me on this page: Admin candidatures so that this page gets an admin, that is really present. Thank you. Liubos goleineis, Zylbath 11:24, 18 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

𐌻𐌹𐍃𐍄𐌰 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉 𐌸𐍉𐌶𐌴𐌹 𐌰𐌻𐌻𐍉𐍃 𐍅𐌹𐌺𐌹𐍀𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌾𐍉𐍃 𐍃𐌺𐌿𐌻𐌿𐌽 𐌷𐌰𐌱𐌰𐌽

Please help to fulfill this list: 𐌻𐌹𐍃𐍄𐌰 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉 𐌸𐍉𐌶𐌴𐌹 𐌰𐌻𐌻𐍉𐍃 𐍅𐌹𐌺𐌹𐍀𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌾𐍉𐍃 𐍃𐌺𐌿𐌻𐌿𐌽 𐌷𐌰𐌱𐌰𐌽 Zylbath 15:02, 30 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2011 (UTC)

300

𐌾𐌹𐌷𐌰!!! 𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃 𐌷𐌰𐌱𐌰𐌼 𐌽𐌿 𐌰𐌽𐌳𐌰𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌺𐍃 300 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉𐍃 𐌰𐌽𐌰 𐍅𐌹𐌺𐌹𐍀𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌾𐌰𐌹! =) 𐍃𐍉 𐌸𐍂𐌴𐌹𐍃 𐌷𐌿𐌽𐌳𐌰 𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉 𐌹𐍃𐍄 𐍆𐌰𐌹𐌷𐌿𐌺𐌹𐌽𐌳𐍃. Zylbath 18:38, 3 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

The double art of script

Hello, I would like to here your opinions to whether the articles should be in both versions the latin and the gothic one or just in gothic. I personally prefer to keep it all in gothic or as a minority runic, since the original scripture is gothic (or runic) and not latin. Sure, it's easier to read espacially for those without the font. But even if they don't have it, on the main page there is a box in English which tells which font to install and where to find it. Furthermore the gothic alphabet isn't that hard to read and it is kind of a gothic culture. And I don't find it helpfully or beautiful when there are both versions at once. If both versions should be kept, I would be totally agreeing if we do it with those links at the bottom of an article which says to let the text appear in latin alphabet even if the version might be not up to date. What do you think of all this? Zylbath 00:49, 25 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

I'm in favor of having both versions in parallel, if possible. The Wulfilas script is pretty, and it's traditional, but there are some drawbacks. It's easier to learn than (for instance) Arabic, but even so, transliterated text will make it a lot easier for newcomers. Speaking for myself, I haven't been able to get it to display in MSIE. Firefox works, but the font I'm using (skeirs) is rather small, which makes it tougher to read. There are some other fonts I could try, but they're rather more ornate, so they probably won't be any more "skeirs" than that! Also, I don't have a way of typing in it, so I have to copy and paste the tiny letters. I'm sure there are some solutions out there, which I may research some time, but for now creating text is fairly painstaking as it is. Allsbairhts 11:14, 26 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

So, when thinking of having both the gothic and latin alphabet, what would you think of displaying the gothic alphabet as default and having a link under or above (which I'd prefer) the article where you can click on to have the latin text? That would destroy the asthetic of the article, because in my opinion the same version of an article with pictures, cards, tablets etc. twice isn't that asthetic.

I guess I should write a tutorial here to install the fonts that way, one can use them for writing. Actually, it isn't very difficult. =) Zylbath 23:18, 26 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

What I envision is that in each section, the Wulfilas script would be first, followed by the Latin version. There's no need for duplicate graphics; they would just appear once. How about that? Also, if both scripts are visible at once, then it would be helpful for learners. Allsbairhts 06:06, 28 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

But wikipedia shouldn't be a place where to learn an alphabet, at least not in the articles. In most wikipedias different dialects or scriptures are always seperated by own links or sections and not written under each other, that's the standard. I would actually like to follow that here, too. But for learning the language or even the alphabet we can create an own section, where a tutorial or guide explains how to read it etc. We can link that to the main page. I still would propose a link at the top of an article which is written in latin alphabet to get to the latin version. I'm going to make a first version for you to see. And for the main page I thought of something like that: Plattdüütsch Wiktionary. There the dialects are seperated in own pages, we can do that with our page aswell in gothic and latin alphabet. What do you think? Zylbath 11:06, 28 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the first point, generally speaking, this is so. But, Gothic has a unique situation, and the fussy Wiki way isn't an ideal one-size-fits-all solution. If we wish to breathe a little life into a dead language, then it makes sense to help newcomers past hurdles in comprehension and technology. Given that the Wulfilas alphabet has less common use than Elvish and (until they invent time travel) no native speakers are going to be scratching their heads wondering why we wrote the encyclopedia this way, then parallel transliterated text as an aid to newcomers to Gothic (pretty much everybody besides a few professors and grad students) might not be such a bad thing. That being said, I would like to see an example of what you had in mind as a proof of concept. The "Namne tala" article is one of the few articles long enough to be unwieldy, and it would benefit from this approach. Allsbairhts 09:03, 3 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

Well, the problem is, Gothic is closed for translations. I am trying since some days to talk to the responsables, because there is still so much english text on the side of wikipedia. The reason for the closing is, that the translators used the latin script, albeit they were supposed to use the gothic one, since that's the genuin one. Having the same text on the same page in both writings is really not like wikipedia and might help to close this whole gothic wikipedia. Either we really use only the Gothic alphabet or we try to find a way, to have Gothic as default but an extra box or so where the latin script is in. Do you know the english side of wiktionary? Do you know the translation boxes? I want these ones for the latin script, either at the top or at the bottom of a page. Then a user can click on it and the latin text appears. This is maybe the best solution we have for a double script, since it's really not recommended to have two own pages for the same article but in different scripts, which would be the only way when working with an link to click on to get to the latin scripted article.

I really hope, they are going to open the translation function. Otherwise I guess I am going to start a subscribing petition and alarming the gothic mailing list. ;) This side is more like a construction side, we need more articles, a better translated page and more users.

And by the way, the gothic alphabet is really not that hard to read, even the Ulfila font which might be harder to read then others, is fast to learn. For some learners (me included) the stranger script is another reason to learn the language. We should stick to that how gothic is traditionally, otherwise this wikipedia would not try its best to document the oldest germanic language, which we know of.

If I weren't be so dumb for computational things I would have already made that box I am talking of. But I really don't succeed, but I am already talking which some people from the english wiktionary about how that template is working. Some day I will bring it to start. ;) Zylbath 13:12, 5 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

YEAH!! I got it, finally. With the big help of some people from the English wiktionary. 𐍆𐌹𐌻𐌿 𐌸𐌰𐌲𐌺𐍉𐍃!!! =) So, now I can show you, how I ment it with the dropdownmenubox. See the article 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌰𐍂𐌰𐌶𐌳𐌰. There is a box at the top where you can click on and then the latin scripted text appears. I think it is kind of cool and way more asthetic then before. What do you think of it? The handling is quite easy:

{{𐌻𐌰𐍄𐌹𐌽𐍃𐌺𐌰 𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌽𐍃}}
BLABLABLABLATEXTBLABLABLA
{{𐌰𐌽𐌳𐌰}}

Or with latin skript:
{{latinska meleins}}
TEEEEEEEEXT
{{anda}}

This way it wouldn't take to much space of the gothic written text, the gothic text is still default and it is easy to get to the latin text without having an extra link and so double articles for each script, which would be totally not worth it.

𐌻𐌰𐍄𐌹𐌽𐍃𐌺𐌰 𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌽𐍃 - Latinska meleins

Now, you have to say yes, because it took some time and it is cool. ;)

Zylbath 15:03, 6 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

AWESOME, even templates, graphics and all other stuff work in that box. Zylbath 15:19, 6 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

OK, looks good. I tried it out on the article for dearest Amy. One suggestion I have would be to make the instructions on the home page (Haubdiseido) of where to go to install the fonts more prominent. Any newcomer to the site is going to see a bunch of tiny squares at first, after all, and the instructions are in small text. Perhaps the "Gutans" box could stretch across the whole page horizontally, and the text be made larger and vertically centered on the right of Gizur's picture. It might also mention that some articles will have drop down boxes for convenience. Allsbairhts 12:20, 10 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, I already thought of that. I guess I will make a little box at the very top of the page with an english text or so, where to install the fonts. And I wanted to make the main page also in a latin version. A link or so should be above then. But I would always recommend the Ulfila font. I know Robert Pfeffer made another font for the wikipedia (Skeirs) and for electronic things, but that font didn't really work here. The wikipedia logo is made with Ulfila and it is by far the most beautiful font in gothic. So, I would recommend that if we have the chance, we should tell the people to download that font. Which one are you using? BTW: Please step by to the discussion side of amy winehouse, if you have some time. ;) Thank you very much for you dedication here. Zylbath 13:54, 11 𐍆𐌰𐌽𐌹𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions for improvement

Hello, do you have any suggestions for improvement on this wikipedia? I can change now many things here, and most of the things here are pretty antiqued. So if you have any ideas for a better wikipedia, anyhow, tell me! ;) Zylbath 02:40, 26 𐌰𐍆𐍄𐌿𐌼𐌰 𐌾𐌹𐌿𐌻𐌴𐌹𐍃 2012 (UTC)

𐌷𐌰𐌿𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌰𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉 𐌽𐌿 𐌰𐌿𐌺 𐌹𐍃𐍄 𐌹𐌽 𐌻𐌰𐍄𐌹𐌽𐍃𐌺𐌰 𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌽𐍃

𐌷𐌰𐌹𐌻𐍃, 𐌹𐌺 𐌲𐌰𐌼𐌰𐌹𐌳𐌹𐌳𐌰 𐌸𐍉 𐌷𐌰𐌿𐌱𐌹𐌳𐌰𐍃𐌴𐌹𐌳𐍉𐌽 𐌾𐌰𐌷 𐍃𐌹 𐌹𐍃𐍄 𐌽𐌿 𐌰𐌿𐌺 𐌹𐌽 𐌻𐌰𐍄𐌹𐌽𐍃𐌺𐌰 𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌽𐍃 𐌸𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌷 𐌸𐌰𐌼𐌼𐌰 𐌽𐌹𐌿𐌾𐌹𐌽 𐍆𐌰𐌿𐍂𐌰𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌴𐌹𐌽𐌰. Zylbath (talk) 11:58, 20 𐌺𐌰𐌻𐌳𐌼𐌴𐌽𐍉𐌸𐍃 2012 (UTC)